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PostSubject: Soul-Mates?   Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:57 am

**The conversation started as thus on Gaiaonline in the Otherkin Guild I am in.

No one person has just ONE soul-mate. If one soul-mate you have dated or been with doesn't work out (and I'm not going to say it's easy breaking off those relationships), as the cliche saying goes, "there's plenty more fish in the sea". Though the chances to find another true-blue soul-mate is kind of one in a million and a roll of the dice. I've met at least three of mine and I'm currently dating one.

How to explain the sensation of when you know it's a soul-mate you've found is somewhat difficult to some degree. It's one of those things of you have to know what you're looking for. Let me give you an example. You can date any one person and that relationship between you can be good, fine, and it might even make you feel relatively complete. But when your soul-mate steps onto the scene things change. You feel this sensation known as 'Resonation' (this is what I refer to it as being as well as my boyfriend). This sensation will start out relatively normal and will then grow into a blaze of emotion. Generally you'll feel this in a minute amount when you find soul-friends. These are the friends that have been with you for several lifetimes. The best way to explain the sensation of 'Resonation' is to say it feels like a spark and if it's a soul-mate your spark is reacting to it will grow and glow. You feel completely different (and should in a good way not bad.) on an emotional level (you might feel different on more then just an emotional level though). People close to you will most likely notice the change in your personality right away.

However, while finding one's soul-mate is a wondrous moment in time, please keep in mind if you ever find one you, they, or even both of you may have to make sacrifices in your lives if you want to make your relationship work. Life isn't meant to be easy and puts forth many tests for us to face and build our characters. I wish those searching for their soul-mates the best of luck and have some faith. Additionally, be patient, your soul-mate will most likely find you when you least expect it.

terradi of Gaiaonline wrote:
Re: Resonation .... not sure I can agree with you on that. .... Unless, perhaps, it's different for different people.

I experienced something similar where I just had this outpouring of energy starting in my hands and going through my entire body when I was with my ex-fiancee. It was entirely unique, and something that I've never felt since. I described it at the time as the feeling of barriers melting and two souls meeting. At the time I thought they'd literally merged. I figured that was a sure sign at the time. I still don't know what it was. It was years (literally) after we met. When I met him I was dating one of his friends. I was interested in him ... but I don't think either of us would have unshielded enough to let that sort of thing happen.

Being fortunate enough to find multiple soulmates in a lifetime, if they really do come in multiples is a bit hard for me to believe. Part of me wonders if soulmate = eternity, or just that you both came from the same place, like fraternal twins. I wonder if a bond like that means that you're meant to fall in love or stay in love or if it's just a bond like any other, and that everlasting love is not necessarily the result.

I'm sure 'Resonation' happens differently for everyone. For me it happens in a particular fashion verses maybe someone else. Same principle as there being different methods of sensing a persons aura. No one person senses the same as another. Some sense auras by smell others by sensation (feeling out the vibrations if you will), seeing the aura itself, etc.

And as I said, even if you do meet a soul-mate doesn't mean that relationship is always going to work out. It could simply mean they are meant to teach you something for this lifetime but not necessarily be with you. You'll know the right one (s) when you find them.

I don't see how the concept of more then one soul-mate is difficult to grasp. Think of it in this light. If your soul is reincarnated over and over in a different world, different plane/plain of existence, a different time, different way of life, there is no guarantee that the first soul-mate you had in your first life EVER is going to be your mate again, again, and again in every life. They do need to be reincarnated themselves and learn different lessons from you. I'm sure their god/dess has a specific plan for them as well. Hence why one person just might not be the one and there are others.

terradi of Gaia wrote:
Being fortunate enough to find multiple soulmates in a lifetime, if they really do come in multiples is a bit hard for me to believe. Part of me wonders if soulmate = eternity, or just that you both came from the same place, like fraternal twins. I wonder if a bond like that means that you're meant to fall in love or stay in love or if it's just a bond like any other, and that everlasting love is not necessarily the result.
It is my belief that those you resonate with, their souls/energy comes from the same divine source as yours. You are each pieces of a larger puzzle and together that makes you a force to be reckoned with. It's hard to explain the divine 'Many-as-one' concept, nor do I understand it that well myself. I'm not that eloquent yet with explaining it, but I'm certain my boyfriend could explain it far better then I can.

I'm not entirely sure I understand your last question. What do you mean? What are you getting at? It sounds like there is a far more specific question there then you are giving away.

terradi of Gaiaonline wrote:
I understand your idea, and I do get the concept. But what I think you're referring to is not something that I would really consider to be soulmates. Just one kind of karmic link, or link based on past lives, or whatever.
If the link is due to a person being compatible, and a good partner for us, why use the term soulmates? (The mate part of it implies to me for life, and beyond, really) Why not a good pair, or someone who is karmically linked?

I have heard of Karmic links before, but they are usually in reference to those friends that are bonded to you on that relatively similar level. For good or bad, they're reincarnated to help or not help you through the worst of times. However it seems that 'Karmic Links' can be an interchangeable term to use when referring to 'Soul-mates' and the like. From the reading I was doing it sounded that way any how. Those relationships you have grow typically from friendship into something more, but that doesn't always happen for some.

I use the term 'Soul-mate' since it is typically a term many people understand and are familiar with. Granted it sounds like a long-term thing, but that doesn't mean it has to be, it's just all a matter of perspective. I try not to use the term myself since in my earlier days when I was dating I used it to refer to someone and that relationship eventually went sour. This has left me not leaving/giving anything too much value or worth. Right when you do, it just might crumble. But at the same time life is about learning to stand on your own two feet and I feel that's more of what it was about then rather something like 'bad luck'. I also did realize he was a soul-mate, just not the right one and when I said it in reference to that person, it held very little to no weight in the least bit for me. It was a simple understanding of things.

terradi of Gaia wrote:

I do believe that in regards to my ex, we had a very strong bond, and that we were meant to meet again, if only to have a chance to really get to know each other and understand that the powerful pull that we felt in that first lifetime we shared was not one for eternity, and that we were not a perfect fit. I believe I learned my lesson ... I wouldn't bet on him learning it though.

Hehe I know someone like that. I know two in fact, but I expect the other one to learn better then the first one. I don't think the first will ever learn his. And as long as you understand that your bond didn't feel like that for you, then you've definitely made the right decision (s) for yourself in this life and that's all that really matters. You can't be the keeper of others it just never quite works right.

terradi of Gaiaonline wrote:

Mostly, I'm wondering if a strong link, coming from the same place, being close siblings or something else where there is an undeniable connection but nothing romantic might be a better connection for the type of soul-mates you're referring to.

Here's where I agree and disagree. I understand your concept fairly well, but I just don't like it's explanation, I guess. True enough you will most likely have a higher spiritual connection with a twin sibling or something of that nature, but for each life, as I understand, those two beings have been merely family or most likely friends. If you have a close relationship with your family that makes you feel like the way the Karmic connection of a 'Soul-mate' does umm...might want to make sure nothing funny or shady is going on. I don't know, there just seems like a lot of moral ethics that go far too deeply into all this and that would take a lengthy explanation. I know every society is different and so somethings are allowed, but as I said I would rather not go into that. However it is my personal understanding that any romantic connection you are going to have with someone you will have a greater connection/vibrational frequency with that person then anyone else (I can try to explain this in just a moment).

I happen to know someone who has been reincarnated pretty much side-by -side (I know another set as well) with the same guy (who is his best and closest friend) pretty much for every life they've had. This might be a good example and it might not. I quite frankly don't have their bond so I can't properly understand what they are feeling between one another and to some degree I can.

I suppose if you are looking at it from a reincarnation perspective (and attempting to use your theory here as well), you have a set of twins. Their mother decides to have one more child for a total of 3, right? Okay, so the spiritual connection/bond between the twins is going to be greater then that of the twins and their extra brother/sister. All three will still have a bond/connection, but that extra brother/sister won't quite have the same bond as the twins. (I think I did it, yay! I love you )

Additionally I feel it all depends on your spiritual perspective as well. For me, I am a hopeless romantic, but not only that I am a practicing Adept Druid. My belief is that since the Lady has a compliment to her, which is the Lord, and the Lord has his compliment which is the lady, there is someone similar for me as well. Which leads back to 'Resonation'. Except this time we can use tuning forks as an example. You have two forks that are of the same frequency, if you vibrate one of these tuning forks it will cause the other fork of the same frequency to vibrate when nearby. A person's soul to me is like a tuning fork. Where two people about to have a romantic encounter must vibrate at the same frequency in order to truly be compatible with one another and feel like they have a truly fulfilling relationship. However the same can be said of when trying to find those friends that are right for you as well. In order to reach that level of vibration though with that other person, our souls' must undergo certain trials and tribulations to help our souls grow and evolve to that point. So when the time comes and we meet that person that makes/will make us feel complete, we will know them by this vibration.

Additionally, when people find themselves growing a part. Different experiences will affect people differently thus their vibration will change. It is my belief you can be re-tuned with this same person if you desire to stay with them, but it takes a lot of work from both parties to do this. However this is where some would argue that it is best to move on and not look back, but that's so negative. 😉 We need to have more faith and hope in this world.

terradi of Gaia wrote:

I do believe that some people are strongly linked and that we have a lot to learn from them and them from us.
My ex had a theory that we're given puzzles to work out during our lifetimes. That there are people we're supposed to meet, help, learn from, become friends with, etc. In his case, because he was dragonkin, there were people he was supposed to watch over and protect. All of those people are ones that we are connected to. Sometimes we like them, sometimes we can't stand them, but for better or worse, they are an undeniable part of us and our lives, and we will influence them (and them us) for better or worse.

As I believe the same. You're ex's theory is rather similar to my own, with the exception that people/beings are puzzles in themselves and yes, same concept, you have to find the pieces to help better explain the picture/story/etc in order to be able to learn more, not only about yourself, but possibly about the world around you.


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PostSubject: Re: Soul-Mates?   Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:59 am

terradi of Gaiaonline wrote:
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I think most of our differences seem to revolve around a simple difference of terms. And the fact that I believe that it may be possible that there's only one perfect person out there, and you believe there are many. I pulled the words karmic links from thin air ... as they're the closest I can think of to describing what I'm trying to voice.

However now you know better that 'Karmic connections' wasn't just something you pulled out of thin air. It is a term used by others to describe the connections you speak of with your siblings, family, and friends. I can believe there are many due to the fact I know it for certain since I have met many of my former 'Beloveds' from many other different lifetimes in this one who did not overly/strongly resonate with me, but there was that small trace. However I cannot expect anyone to fully understand where I am coming from nor understand all that I do know.

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I just .. don't understand how, if someone is perfect for you, you could walk away from them. To me that doesn't make a lot of sense. If someone is completely compatible with you, why would you leave them?

Fate brings these individuals to us so that we shall learn. Fate knows that we have been close to these individuals before in prior lives and feels they are the best teachers for teaching us certain lessons. That could possibly be why things change, because it is what fate dictates. For me this just again leads to my 'Resonation' and my whole 'Tuning Fork' theory. If they don't resonate well with your soul, make you feel alive, and happier then you've ever been, they are not quite the right match. It's the difference between being "ho-hum happy" and "Perfectly, utterly, blissfully content in every way" mind/spirit/soul state.

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I think soulmate may be more of a fictional term than a practical one really. You can have people that you're close to, ones that you've shared lifetimes with, but I think the classical definition of a soulmate, someone who completes you and just is the one true other for you is fairly fantastical and nonrealistic for most of us.

You know in some respects I feel you may be correct, however, I still have my faith and hope there is someone very much so like this otherwise...why would people create such a fantastical thing if it were not in some way attainable? Someone must have attained it before us. And if people believed as you did they would be settling and cease the search for the one that, as I said before, makes the difference. (Not trying to insult you of course or anything just merely trying to make a point)

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I see life as closer to a weave than anything else. I'm not sure if a loom or a big, jangly spider's web made out of a billion different fabrics is a better analogy. Either or, some threads come close and are next to each other for a while, then go winging off into the universe. I think that some ties stick with us or help us be drawn to certain people and that karma does play a role in who we meet and sometimes how things work out.

No, I understand this perfectly well. I see it very much the same way however there is also the concept of "reaping that which you sew" (I know wrong sow, give me a break it will work out) and "Sewing what you reap" (see works out if you think about the concept of seam ripping).

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I don't know .... I believed in the soul-mate thing a lot more when I thought that I'd found mine. But the way that that fell apart has left me hopeful that I'm wrong, but questioning if such a perfect relationship really exists or if it's mostly wishful thinking, or us kin-aware putting an extraordinary name to what is truly an ordinary love in a lot of cases.

It did the same to me when I lost my 4 yr long distance relationship. It really made me reassess much of what I knew up till that point in time in my life. But dear, these sorts of experiences should leave you questioning and wondering for they merely open the doors to new discoveries.

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I'm not ever terribly certain what I believe. I pick up bits here and there and focus on what 'feels' right to me. I never have all the answers, but I enjoy asking questions and learning.

I'm fairly certain in what I believe, but I have a love of learning hence I ask many questions. I know I too do not have all the answers, but that doesn't mean I won't try to answer to the best of my capabilities.

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PostSubject: Re: Soul-Mates?   Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:48 am

soulmate might be one. what about a bondmate? read the Inheritance Triology. what about they are are our partner-of-heart-and-mind?

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PostSubject: Re: Soul-Mates?   Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:34 pm

Bondmates are the same thing to me, though it can be seen more from a different perspective. I'd say for instance someone I knew, whom he called another close-male friend brother (though not being blood related), are bondmates. They are not soul-mates per say and at the same time they are, but I suppose it is merely like the word "Love". In the Latin language, from what I understand, there are several different words to describe the "love" of something such as for a brother, father, sister, lover, object, etc.

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